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>> tonight on huckabee. we three days before the election. the mad cramble for the battle ground state. >> we have work fodo. >> ohio takes center stage. >> will you do everything you can to make sure this man is the next president. >> senator rob portman on the economy and the pressure to deliver ohio for romney. >> and former secretary of state ken blackwell that could force americans to wait 10 days to find out who the next president is. and high said it will not be close. michael baron's build prediction of a land slide on election day. live from columbus, mike
huckabee. >> welcome to huckabee. we'll come to you from columbus, thitate with a big role in the presidential election. both candidates fighting for every last vote that would give them 18 electorial votes to put them past 270. and we'll talk about that in a few machines. meanwhile in the home base in new york city and all over the northeast coast, there is pure devastation in the after math of hurricane sandy. ♪ they are talk being surges we have not seen before. >> with each hour the full scope of sandy's detruction is becoming clearer. >> the level of destruction on the jersey shore is unthinkable. >> nothing. i done have anything or anywhere to go. i don't have clothes. >> we have water or electricity all of the food
was thrown out. >> i didn't expect it to be that bad and not to see homes off of thation. >> witnesses said the clouds gloge red can as the fire tore through the hope necessary breezy point. >> my parents lived here 40 years and it is unbelievable. sorry. >> look at >> i meany so many sights are plind bogling. >> folks had to wait to fill up in many cases in lines that stretch for miles that is hard to watch. our hearts, our thoughts and our prayers go to all of those people in the northeast who are adversely affected by hurricane sandy. and we are within hours, of election dape. record numbers have early voted including me. i voted wednesday and so there is nothing that a cand date
can do to my vote. but the campaign will continue until the polls close tuesday night. we are told that the election is it about jobs and the economy. i don't diswith that. it is it what the election will be about probably. but this ought to be the dramatic difference between two parties and world views and futures. you believe tax more and spend more and government more of your life is working for us. then you will want to vote for barak obama and higher taxes gives government money that could have funded your job, romney is more likely to be your choice. this much i do know. i sense something very strong moving over this country. on august 1st people waited for line to buy a chicken sandwich. i believe those people are going to be willing to wait in
line for hours to cast a vote so america will feel their votes. this is not just an election about our pay checks. this is it an election of our principlings. i believe that everyone's life has value and i don't accept the notion someone is dedisposable or expendible. i believe this election ought to be l about america's place in the world. i am not satisfied we are begin straight and honest answers of the murder of our ambassador and thry other american necessary benghazi. the lack of trance parency and the everchanging store stores from the administration are troubling. it is one thing for a politician to embellish or stretch the truth but for the government to knowingly and willingly deceive the citizens for political stelve preservation, that is not a
political failure, that is it a moral failure. maybe you are willing to overlook that. i am not. we saw the horror of the suddens alandoned in the rath of hurricane sandy. for some of them to wait days for rescue in the flooded homes and others to go days without food and water in the most resourceful city on earth is unknowledgeable to think they went hours without help and under a weapon's attack. that is it unimaginable. >> we are not just voting for a personality but the trustworthiness of the poem we effect. i have feet in those who believe in god and don't think he is out of style or disengauged. if they stay home they will be abandoned their children and grand children to a government they can't trust and future
they don't want. if you stood in line for a chicken sandwich, please stand in line for your country. that's my view. well, three days until election day and it could come down to the battle ground state of ohio. my first guess is that if it comes down to ohio, we may not know who the next president until 10 days after the election . joining me is former ohio secretary of state and served as cincinnati mayor ken blackwell you talked about a nightmare scenario. we are here in ohio, political center of the universe. what is the danger and the nightmare scenario. >> 1976, carter beat ford by 11,163 votes that was less than one vote per pesinct. 2004 bush bet kerry by 118,000 and turned 60,000 and we would
have president kerry. and in ohio, we have a situation where every voters was mail would an absentee ballot application and they sent that in and a week ago, we had as many as 800,000 who had sent for an absentee ballot that had not turn today in. if they decide to vote the old-fashioned way. once they go to poling place, they wouldn't be allowed to vote. they would have to vote a provisional ballot because we don't want them voting twice. provisional ballots are not counted until november 17th. what we would have is ape situation where we would have to wait if we had a close race on the traditional balolt. michael barone is right, you know, it is a scenario that we can all laugh and joke about. if it is it a tight race, it
would be a long wait. >> you are ohio's chief election official in the capacity of secretary of state how likely is it that people might deliberately or accidentally voting absentee and i better go down there and vote. how do you protect that from happening? >> we have a excellent system and competent secretary of state and 88 boards of lecs and made up with democrats and republicans and they have a double lock security system and a lot of transparency. i don't think that is going to happen. what is going to potentially happen is that we have a close race on election night, and provisional ballots and overseas ballots will be the determining factor. >> 10 sleepless nights waiting to find out who won ohio and perhaps who won the presidency. >> there are reports of problems with voting machines
and how wide spread do you think that is? is that something that both camps should be worried about? >> look, we don't have any perfect systems any time you have electronic voting system you have cal voting problems. but the ohio system, what i love, we have transparency and a lot of back up systems to make sure that the sort of things that people are wringing their hands about will not the outcome of our election ask we'll have a result whether we get it election night or two weeks from election night. that hommeds the confidence of voters in ohio. >> it is good to know that you are confident of the integrit of the election. what are the issues that will move them for president obama or romney in >> they are going to be economic issues in the main. but the religious arbitrate -
electricity - liberty is impacting the category of voters that the president thought he had in his hip pocket. women and blue collar workers and the like. the catholic church going on the offensive to protect religious liberty is a potential force that can change the result in ohio. >> your prediction. romny or obama? >> i think romney will narrowly eck it out. i just hope we know what is going on on november 6th or seventh. >> great to see you. coming up michael barone with numbers that he said will decide the election in a land slide. but for whom, stay with us. to find out. i would like it hear fru. go to my website
he's making a bold prediction saying that the election is not going to be close. he came up with a scenario that might stur - surprise you. michael baron. you had a bomb shelve an article in the washington examiner and you are predicting a land slide and who wips and why? >> i would predicting romney winning the electorial vote with 315 and that's not a land slide in popular vote and neither of the candidates will get 53% barak obama had last time and he had 365 electorial votes and so when you get up to the numbers you carry a lot
of states. obama carried 28. i tried to look at what i think are the fundmentals in this election and see how they played out in the target state. most voters don't like barak obama and like the slulish economy that resulted from them and likely to center a less democratic electorate thap is shown in 2008 exit polls and most polls, they are tending to show nationally and independent voters going for romney. that means each party's side is relatively eating and nen partisan vote for cappedidates and independent voters break the tie. >> we have a map that is it on the screen it shows solid red as the states for romney and
blue for obama and light likely obama and the pink states are light red for romney. pennsylvania, wisconsin and you say those are likely to tilt romny's way. >> wisconsin tep electorial votes is a battle ground with governor scott walker reforms affecting the bargaining terms and there was a june recall election on governor walker and he won it with 53% of the vote and his side got well organized from that. and i think that balance of enthusiasm that seems to favor republicans this year, that might enable romney to get over the line there. and pennsylvania, a couple of trends and that is not a targetitate in the romny campaign and people supporting romny put money in there. western pennsylvania, where
barak obama did not run well but had low turn out in 2008, voters were cross pressured and traditional democrats didn't want to vote for obama. you will see more 18-obama and it is coal company. and alsolet pennsylvania polls tightened up after the first debate and that is only have happened in the philadelphia suburbs. and afluent areas in the north which are trending democratic were moving back some distance to romney and i understand it romney has a speaking date tomorrow night in buck's county outside of philadelphia. and stow romny has put real money in pennsylvania it is it not cheap to campaign obama responded with some. those factors could put it over the line that would be a real shock and it is it out on
the limb. i will not be utterly surprised to be brong. >> and you have been right more awn than wrong when i read the article i said this is it stunning. you also looked at ohio and where i am tonight. and this is ground zero for the election, how important is it ohio and who wins that tuesday? >> i think ohio is it hugely important and it has 18 electoral vote. that is it a significant number. bark bumum carried it by four poigns in 2008 and he put a barage of anti-ads and bain capital and autobail out and obama is doing better with white blue collar voters in ohio than other state. he's leading in most polls. and a lot of the polls are showing a democratic party
identification edge in the respondants that is greater than the exit poll. and that just doesn't make sense to me and causes me to question them. we have problems with pollingly technology now because of so many cell phone only people there is it a lot of questioning going on in the polling profession. and i think we may see something like in 2004, which was quietly unreported by the press who don't mix in those stirkles saw evangelical voterss and maul town voters turn out much enhanced numbers that enable would george bush to carry the statine though kerry did a job of turning out the vote in central city neighborhoods and on areas. and i am picking romny to narrowly win. and i think we may like ken blackwell may wait until november 17th to see what happens to the provisional
ballots this is it a provision that leaves me uneasy, but that's the direction i move in. >> michael, we'll be following closely and we may bring you back to stee how well you did. >> if i wear a paper bag over my head, you will know i didn't do well. >> people suggested i should do that every week on the show and you can come and join me and we'll both be bagged. thank you for being here. >> thank you. who should get credit for ohio's economic improvement? should president obama or john csack and waiting for romney, who is speaking in colorado at a campaign stop and when he does, you will hear his comments live e e e e
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>> ohio is experiencing a economic recovery president obama will take credit for that as he campaigning here. my next guest says the prize aught to go to someone closer to home. governor, it is it great to center you here. unemployment rate in ohio was 9 percent and dropped to 7 percent x. one of the few places in the country where that is it happened. why is that happened. >> we are making it job friendly again business friendly again. we balanced our budget whole and did it without raising taxes and we cut taxings. businesses in ohio understand that we are open for business
and we are creating an economic environment where they can be successful. >> the president is here and said that ohio is one of those states that prove his economic policiless are working. how do you respond to the president if he makes those claims? >> i would say it is it just the opposite. they are hurting. we can gobetter if we had a real partner in washington who understood what it takes to create jobs. through our effort and initiative. we are reforming our regulations and at the same time the federal government is pushing more regulations and obamacare and the affect that is it going to have on government spending and more tax dollars spent on medicaid after it is it implement the impact it will center on ohio. >> i loved csi. common sense initiate itch. because it is it a name that
is trendy, but i loved that we will assem pel the top business people and ask them. if you can set government policy to cause you to create jobs whampt is it going to be. and so what did they tell you specifically would help them create jobs in ohio? obviously it has worked. >> we have been meeting and thank you for menging - mentioning. i talk to many, many small business round tables and talking to thempt we have a advisory council that meets. lower taxes and regulatory environment and understanding that your government is financially responsible after we balanced our budget and our credit outlook was upgraded. that is it important to a business that is making a decision to invest a lot of money to suggest which states they are doing that in.
and what is it going to look like? >> governor, the big claim of the obama administration is that his saving and rescuing the automobile industry is one of the key reasons that ohio is doing better. i saw numbers that didn't match that up. and what is the true store store of how many jobs are auto-related jobs. >> we'll go throughlet numbers. we created 112,000 in ohio. since we took office. of that 112,000, 400, of those jobs are associated with the auto. >> 4400-- four hundred out of 112,000? >> yes. we have a diverse economy and focusing on making it technical and food production and manufacturing. and medical. we are growing in many different industry segments and that is it partly contributed to ohio's success. >> it is it a fascinating
store store and i think you and governor casack deserves credit. i can do that. and we are expecting governor romney to spheek soon out of englewood, colorado. we'll carry it live and we don't want to miss it. right here on huckabee. stay with us. . [ cheeping ] [ male announcer ] you hear that? that's the sound of car insurance compani these days. here a cheap, there a cheap, everywhere a cheap... you get it.
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i would like to introduce someone to you. i would like to introduce you to the next first lady of the united states. ann romney. [ applause ] >> that is the most extraordinary welcome. thank you, colorado! [ applause ] we're getting closer and closer and this is getting very exciting. [ applause ] this is what -- three more days. (chanting) >> it is. it is only three more days! [ applause ]
this is so exciting for us. it is a thrill to be here. what a great country this is what an honor it has been to go across the nation and meet people like you that are here standing up today for america. [ applause ] (chanting three more days) >> you got it. you got it >> we have such a thrill to be able to go across the country and now that journey is coming to a close and a new journey is about to begin! [ applause ] and what a thrill it is going to be for me because i know something about mitt. he does not fail! [ applause ]
in our marriage, he has stood by me in my darkest hour. as you know, i had difficulties in my life and where is mitt been? standing by my side! [ applause ] as a father, i have seen him show exemptulary courage and devotion to his family and sons. he raised the most extraordinary sons! [ applause ] i have seen him in business be everything and most exceptional business leadership and turn thippings around and now what i am excited about is the next turn around in his chapter and career. and it is going to start next tuesday with your help. thank you very much! [ applause ]
>> tonight, tonight we are entering the final weekend of the campaign, and you are right at the obama rallies they are shouting more years and we are shouting three more days. and we are so very grateful to you and the people across the country, for all that you have given of yourselves to this campaign. this is not just about paul ryan and me, it is it about america. [ applause ] it is it about the future that we are going to leave our children. we thank you we ask you to stay at it until we win on tuesday night. [ applause ]
now the closing hours of a campaign have a dynamic all their own and many voters have made up their mind who they will vote for. yeah, i figured you know what you will do, but there is it a lot of others are putting aside the demands of daily living and considering who they will vote for and how that will affect their lives and children and counselry. we ask them to look beyond the speeches and the attacks and the adlook to the record, accomplishments and failures and the judgment, because words are cheap and a record is it real and it is it earned with effort. [ applause ]
you so, change can't be measured in speeches it is it measured in achievements and four years ago, four years ago, candidate obama promise tod do soy much, but he's fallen so very short. i mean, you recall. he promised to be a post partisan president he's been most partisan and dividing and attacking and blaming. he was going to focus on creating jobs and instead he focused on obamacare that killed jobs. he said he was going to cut the federal deficit in half and then he doubled it. and then he said he would bringlet unemployment rate down to 5.25 percent and we learned on friday 7.9 nine million jobs short of what he promised and unemployment. and unemployment today is higher than when barak obama
took office and by the way, he promised to propose a plan to save social security and medicare. he did not. rather he raided $716 billion from medicare to pay for obamacare. the list goes on. and he said he would low are health prem yups by $2000. and instead went up $3000 a family. and average american family pays $2000 more for gasoline than when president obama was elected. and i mention one more thing. he said he would work across the aisle on the most important issues. he's not met on the economy or on the budget or on jobs with either the republican leader of the house and senate since july so he's made the divide
wider. people wonder how is it he fell so short of what he promised? he never led. or worked across the aisle and never truly understood how jobs are created in this economy by the way, he's making new promiseless. promises he will not be able to keep, because he admits he's stayog the same path. and same course we are on will not lead to a better destination. that means 20 trillion in debt in the end of the second term that he will not have and crippling unemployment and stagnant take home pay and depressed home values and devastated military and by the way, unless we change course, we may look at another recession . and so the question of this election comes down to this, do you want more of the same? or do you want real change? [ applause ]
president obama -- president obama promised change but could not deliver change. now, i promise change and i have a record of achieving real change. [ applause ] >> i built a business. i helped turn around another. and helped to put the low pressures back - olympics back on track and turn happened my state from deficit to surplus and job losses to job growth and higher tax home pay. -- take home pay this is why i am running for president. i know how to change the course of the naption and balance the budget and get rising take home pay. [ applause ]
this is it accomplish and change is not something i talk about. it is something that i have done. and it is it what i will do when i am president of the united states with your help. [ applause ] (chanting) >> now, if you believe we can do better and believe that america should be on a better course and tired of being tired. i ask you for vote for real change. paul ryan and i will bring you real change from day one. when i am elected, the economy and american jobs will beinant. i will not waste time complaining about my predecessor. [ applause ] and i won't spend my time
trying to pass partisan legislation that is it unrelated to jobs. day one, i will help americans get back to work. [ applause ] now, you know as well as i do, people are responding to the five-part plan to create jobbings. you know part one, taking full advantage of our energy resources. day one. i am going to act to increase leases and permit to drill on federal lands and i will act to speed the approval of the key stone pipe line from canada. secondly, i will boost trade with latin america and finally
desigate china as a currency manipulator and it is time that trade works for america. now, third, i want to send to congress retrain asking reform act to make sure workers have the skims for good paying job and fourth move to tackle out of control spend spend to congress. down payment on fiscal sanity act. [ applause ] and in this act we'll not just slow down the rate of government and its spending, but i will cut spending. [ applause ] you see, i am not going to just take office on january 20th. i will take responsibility for that office as well [ applause ]
and number 5, number 5, i will act to boost small business and all business and i will issue executive orders aimed straight at the problems that are holding back the economy and the first of those will grant state waivers from obamacare to begin instant repeal. [ applause ] and the second, the second is going to launch a sweeping review of all of the obama era regulation eliminate or repair those that are killing american jobs . [ applause ] and for the first time in four years, every entrepreneur, every small business person, every job creator, will know that the president of the united states likes them and loves the jobs that they hire
for americans. [ applause ] we've almost forgot what a real recovery looks like and what americans can achieve when we limit government instead of the limiting of the of fellow americans and that's about to change. now the people who will be voting are going to choose the future they want. you know what you need to know, you can stay on the path of last four years or choose real change. you know that if the president is reelected he will be unable to work with the people in congress. he's ignored them and blamed them and attacked them. the debt ceiling will come up again and shut down and default will be threatened and a chill in the economy. the president was right when
he can't change washington in the inside. in this case. we can take him at his word. he's going to be on the outside. [ applause ] you see, when i am elected, and when i am elected. [ applause ] i am going to work with republicans and democrats in congress and meet with their leaders and endevor to find good men and women on both sides of the aisle who care more about the country than they do politics. now you also know if the president were to be reelected he would continue his war on coal, oil and natural gas. and all of that would guarantee higher energy prices at the pump and fewer jobs as
well. when i am elected, we'll change course on energy and i know how much it mean to middle class families struggling to get by. we can help to hold down price necessary the pump and energy, and nuclear and coal and renewables and oil. you know, you know that if the president were to be reelected he would promote government and demote business. he chose his own job's council you know. made up of leaders, business leaders and he wanted advice on the issue of the time creating jobs and a stronger economy. do you know how long since he met with them? nine months. nine months. look, look, i see free enterprizes as a means for people to fulfill their and so, by the way, you know the other day, i
was in richmond, virginia a couple of days ago, and met with ronda eliot. she's been running her family restaurant for a few years and it is called bill's queue - barbeque and been in her family years. and she just closed it down. she told me obama era regulations and taxs and obama economy put her out of business and teared up. this was not about money, it was about the future for her family and for the family of employees that she cares about. i want to help the hundreds of thousands of dreamers like roda and i will. [ applause ] now you know, if the president were to be reelected he will say good things about
education but in the final analysis he will do what his largest campaign are contributors tell them. that means your kids will have the same schools with the stame results. when i am president, i will be a voice of the children and parents, because they don't have a union! [ applause ] i want to make sure the parents have the information they need to know to find out if their school is succeeding or fail i want to make they have the choice to pick the school with a child with the best chance of success. now one more thing. under barak obama, a reed obama.
there would be devastatingly cuts that jeopardize our national security and kill jobs. when i am president, i will not cut our commitment to national defense. [ applause ] a strong america is the best allied peace and i will keep it strong. [ applause ] now i have watched over the last few months as the campaign gathered the strength of a movement. not only the size of the crowds. this is it an extraordinary crowd tonight. [ applause ] it is also the depth of our shared conviction. it made me strive more to be worthy of your support and campaign as i would govern. and to speak for the
aspirations of all americans. i learned as governor of the state of massachusetts best achievements are shared achievements and respect and good will go along way and return in kind. that's how i conduct myself as. doing things for the common good. i will not only represent one party. i will represent one nation. [ applause ] (chanting three more days) (chanting usa) >> now as you know, as you know, throughout the campaign. president obama has tried to convince you last four years have been a success. he's floating a plan for the next four years.
he wants to take all of the first term, stim tim and borrowing and obamacare and all of the rift and try them all over again. look, our big will not be satisfied with a small agenda that has already failed and yesterday, i imagine you already heard this. yesterday president obama asked his voters to vote for revenge. for revenge. instead, i ask the american people to vote for love of country. [ applause ] (chanting usa) together we have got to lead america to a better place. now we are three days away from a fresh start. three days away from the first day of a new beginning.
my conviction is it based on unshakable faith of the american spirit. is anyone worried that the last four years is the best we can do. if anybody fears the american dream is fading away. is there better jobs or pay checks are things of the past. i have a clear message. with the right leadership, america is about to come roaring back. [ applause ] (chanting usa) >> we are americans and we can do anything. the only thing. the only thing that stands between us and some of the best years we have known is lack of leadership and that is why we have election. you saw the difference between
president obama and myself when we were side by side in our debates. he said it has to be this way. i said it stand this way. he offers excuses. i have a plan. [ applause ] i can't wait to get going. he's hoping we'll settle. but americans don't settle. we build. we aspire. we listen to the voice inside that said we can do better. a better job and better life for our kids and bigger and better country that is it coming soon. [ applause ] >> three more days and we can get to work and rebuilding our country and restoring our confidence and renewing conviction and confident of a solid path and steady
impresumement and graduates -- college graduates will find a better job. confident that the single moms who are working two jobs will have a shot at a better job as well. [ applause ] now my confidence in america and in our future stems from what i have seen in the heart of the american people. we are a people who are given to give ourselves to things larger than ourselves. it said a hero is not someone who is larger than life. just larger than himself . several years i served as a boy scout leader for the boy scouts of america. [ applause ] and i was in a court of honor, that's where they get the eagle scout and other award and there was a long formica table next to an american flag and the person who was speaking in the podium was a
scout master we flew in from monument, colorado to tell the store store, i just through there. he said his boy scout troupee wanted a? american flag and had one flown above the capt capt building and the boys said i would like to have nasa take it up in the space shuttle and they contacted nasa and nasa agreed. you can imagine the pride of our boys sitting in the rooms at school and watching the tv sets and saw the space challenger shuttle launch in the air and saw it explode in front of their eyes he said he called nasa and said have you found any remnant much our flag. they have not. week after week month after month. still no remnant of the flag from the terrible disaster and then he was reading an article in the paper and described the debris from the challenger disast yer mentioned a flag.
he call would nasa again. and in fact we have a presentation to make to your boys. nasa came together and they presented the boys with a plastic container and they opened tup. it was a american flag in perfect condition. [ applause ] he said, then he said that's next to mr. romney and i reached over and i grabbed that flag and held it out. and it was as electricity ran through my arm. because i thought of all of the men and women in our space program who put themselves in path out of a desire for learn knowledge. for us. it is it the american way. think of all of the servicemen and women who put themselves in harm's way for freedom.
[ applause ] >> i haven't seen that flag want. 15 or 20 years from the scout master, but monument, colorado is not far. would you welcome that scout master and that flag? [ applause ] [ applause ] >>, come out here. thank you. now did i get that store store right. >> you did, sir. >> that is it a great flag. represented the greatest naption in the history of the earth. it is it a flag of hope. >> thank you, thank you, thank you. [ applause ] [ applause ]
you see, i see a troupe of scouts right here. thanks, young men for your service to the community. it is it in the american sphirit. this where of giving to others and some extraordinary and remarkable ways and others in remarkable ways in their own homes. my sister is one of my life heros in her cents now and eight children and seven've them are raised with children of their own. and the youngest had down's syndrome. jeffrey is 43. my sister is a single mom as her husband passed away she devoted her life to jeffrey and making sure he has a full and abundant life. she is a hero to me. [ applause ]
think of all of the single moms, i think of all of the single moms struggling to make sure they have what is necessary to put a good meal on the table in the end of the day all . moms and dads who are working two jobs or perhaps one working night shift and the other day shift and hardly see each other. and want to make sure the kids have the other clothes that kids have and don't stand out. think of all of the coupems at christmas time and stay, let's not exchange but make sure our kids have christmas. this is it a nation to people who give of themselves and on november 6th. i want us to come together to draw on that greatness. [ applause ] and then on november 7th, on november 7th we'll go to work. reach across the street to the neighbor, you know on the
other side of the street that has the yard sign for the other guy, and i want you to know i will reach across the aisle to washington in people of good faith and work for the common good of the nation. this is it, this is much more than our moment. it is it america's moment of renewal and purpose and optimism. we journeyed far and wide for america's future and we are now almost there. one final push will get us we know a lot of short nights and long days and now we are close the door to a brighter future is it open and waiting for us. i need your vote. and i need your work and help and walk with me. let's walk together and start anew. thank you so very much, colorado. you guys are the best. thank you soy very much. thank you. [ applause ]